Comments about "What's cooking"

wriedmann · Post by **wriedmann** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:55 pm

Hi Robert,
thank you very much for sharing the plans for the near and the middle term!
I look forward specially to the new SQL based RDD and have changed my own development plans according to it, planning to accelerate the move to SQL for my VO applications specially where I need processing speed and/or incompatibilities between a .NET based RDD and the VO RDD (mostly because of compressed or encrypted memo data). For this purpose I have already nearly finished a VO DataServer class that uses a X# COM module to access PostgreSQL.
And of course I'm really interested in the Unicode GUI classes because the development speed with the VO GUI is unparalleled so it makes sense for us to use it even for new applications, basing them also on the new SQL RDD.
Wolfgang

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:02 pm

Wolfgang,

Are you not able to post comments to the article page itself? I think there's indeed a problem with that.

wriedmann · Post by **wriedmann** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:06 pm

Hi Chris,
no, I'm not able - it is blocked.
Had written that to Robert a few months ago.
But anyway, my text would be to long to fit in the normal comments.
And, as we say "ich musste meinen Senf dazugeben" - "had to add my mustard" when translated word per word <g>.
Wolfgang

bob · Post by **bob** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:22 pm

Chris,

Chris wrote:Wolfgang,
Are you not able to post comments to the article page itself? I think there's indeed a problem with that.

The webserver had switched to PHP 8 and apparently the commenting system does not work wit PHP 8.
I have switched the website back to PHP 7.4 and will look for an alternative that also works with PHP 8.

Robert

wriedmann · Post by **wriedmann** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:26 pm

Hi Robert,
at this moment the website says: "You need to login to post comments on this website." even if I'm always logged in.
If this is an issue only for me please don't loose time - there are more important things to do. Maybe it has to do with my special role (partial forum admin).
Wolfgang

ic2 · Post by **ic2** » Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:21 pm

Hello Robert,

Just to let you know: I could post a comment, but notice that after being logged in, it takes over half a minute before the recent forum posts appear.

About the SQL-DBF long term plans: what would be your educated guess when this could be used?

And one more question: according to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet ... /whats-new ado.net hasn't been updated for 4 years.

Doesn't that mean that ado.net is one of the future candidates to be depreciated, like Sliverlight or Windows Phone (and hence mean you should not base your long term plans on it)?

Dick

robert · Post by **robert** » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:53 pm

Dick,
I have replaced the comments component on the website with another component, because the previous component was no longer being maintained and did not work properly with the latest release from PHP.
I also see that the "latest comments" module from the newer component takes more time to load than the old component.
I'll discuss this with the authors of the new component, Maybe they can explain this and have a solution.

Robert

robert · Post by **robert** » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:03 pm

ic2 wrote:Hello Robert,
About the SQL-DBF long term plans: what would be your educated guess when this could be used?

And one more question: according to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet ... /whats-new ado.net hasn't been updated for 4 years.

Doesn't that mean that ado.net is one of the future candidates to be depreciated, like Sliverlight or Windows Phone (and hence mean you should not base your long term plans on it)?

1) No release date yet for the SQL-DBF long term plans. We are now in the "proof of concept" phase
2) Ado.Net is not dead. I agree that that documentation page needs to be updated. But Ado.Net is part of .Net Core, .Net 5 and .Net 6.
If you look at the .Net Core repo on Github you will see that also the folder with Ado.Net code is updated very frequently:
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/tree/ ... ystem/Data
Also Ado.Net is a vital building block for Entity Framework and many other .Net components.
RObert

ic2 · Post by **ic2** » Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:00 am

Hello Robert,

robert wrote:I have replaced the comments component on the website with another component, because the previous component was no longer being maintained and did not work properly with the latest release from PHP.
I also see that the "latest comments" module from the newer component takes more time to load than the old component.
I'll discuss this with the authors of the new component, Maybe they can explain this and have a solution.

This again proves that it's a good idea to update as little as possible. I really liked this feature and often quickly check if there are new messages. Now this has become unusable with a waiting time of 30-60 seconds. But it is working on the latest PHP version! Great. And it's maintained. Fantastic! Like Microsoft maintains everything but my top 10 annoyances of Microsoft products have not been solved in the last decade. No. single. one.

I'd be surprised if this will be solved and then this is one of the many pieces of software I use which have become worse.

Dick

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:48 pm

Hi Dick,

We were just discussing the matter of service/application upgrades etc with Robert and Nikos right now during lunch, and as you may expected my opinions were very close to yours

But are you really getting 30 seconds delays? In my machine it has indeed become slower which is a bit annoying, but I'm only talking about a 1-2 seconds delay. Maybe there's something else wrong in your machine, or maybe it is extremely overloaded?

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