First X# runtime: available to the public?

[lumberjack]

Hi Wolfgang,

don't work anymore for money - like Johan
And some of them are contributing and helping here.

The helping is a pleasure, just maybe not so up to detail with all the developments during the last year, but am slowly catching up... Contributing is a small part, I get more out of here than what I feel I contribute.

Regarding "anymore" for money, well that I hope will soon change. Might just starting to see a small improvement in my eyes and legs at the moment. Cross fingers! This 21 year old trapped in a 50 something body still has many moons to go.

Johan

[rjpajaron]

Hi Wolfgang,

don't work anymore for money - like Johan
And some of them are contributing and helping here.

The helping is a pleasure, just maybe not so up to detail with all the developments during the last year, but am slowly catching up... Contributing is a small part, I get more out of here than what I feel I contribute.

Regarding "anymore" for money, well that I hope will soon change. Might just starting to see a small improvement in my eyes and legs at the moment. Cross fingers! This 21 year old trapped in a 50 something body still has many moons to go.

Johan

Hi Johan,


We need that 50-something wisdom in 21-something energy. Me with growing grey hair fast and aging eyes too.

In my case, I have no need of X# without RDD but I may have something to make me productive during the X# runtime beta. Probably, in preparation for X# RDD runtime beta, I have to build the VO runtime as Robert noted before. then do some serious testing, like the arrays and many more. I do not make use of macro and other scripting stuff. Maybe, I will explore that one too.

Nevertheless, look forward to it and seriously, in preparation for RDD stuff.

Need to get rid of Vulcan runtime to finally have any cpu x64 thing running.

Regards,

Rene

[softdevo@tiscali.it]

Personally I have not used DBF for over 15 years. If I publish the corresponding of VulcanRT.dll and VulcanRTFuncs.dll I'm okay.

Danilo

[ic2]

Hello Wolfgang,

Hi Karl,

On the other side: I don't know how many people will start trying without the DBFCDX RDD. And that is scheduled for a later release.

Wolfgang

To be honest, I kind of missed the point how the first X# runtime is different from the current X# releases. Is this a version that runs without Vulcan DLL's?
If so, we would need to access DBF files with it so if that's for a later release I will not in the first test-team I am afraid.

Dick

[Chris]

Hi Dick,

This will be the first step in the way of completely getting rid of the vulcan runtime dlls, later this year.

This first version will have native X# support for VO types like USUAL, ARRAY etc, runtime functions like Left(), Right() and so on, and will also feature the fisrt version of the X# macro compiler.

So if you have an app that uses that kind of things, but no dbfs, then you will be already able to get rid of the vulcan dlls and use the x# runtime dlls instead. Well, some things will need some ironing out, after you guys test it with your apps, but within a few weeks I think this part of the runtime will be completely ready.

For apps that use dbfs, you will need to wait a bit more, before you can move to the x# runtime. We;re getting close though, it shouldn't bee too long now, till everything will be native X#...

Chris

[rjpajaron]

Hi Dick,

This will be the first step in the way of completely getting rid of the vulcan runtime dlls, later this year.

This first version will have native X# support for VO types like USUAL, ARRAY etc, runtime functions like Left(), Right() and so on, and will also feature the fisrt version of the X# macro compiler.

So if you have an app that uses that kind of things, but no dbfs, then you will be already able to get rid of the vulcan dlls and use the x# runtime dlls instead. Well, some things will need some ironing out, after you guys test it with your apps, but within a few weeks I think this part of the runtime will be completely ready.

For apps that use dbfs, you will need to wait a bit more, before you can move to the x# runtime. We;re getting close though, it shouldn't bee too long now, till everything will be native X#...

Chris

Hi Chris,

thanks for the update.

I timed my new roadmap for new runtime upgrade of our core apps based on X# roadmap schedule:
Xsharp.RDD > Beta on July 2018 with target release date on September 2018.

Give and take, that is basically Q4.


Regards,


Rene

[wriedmann]

Hi Dick,

the X# development team is really fast in delivering, but unfortunately they cannot do all on the same time.

Therefore you will have to wait for the X# RDDs. But there are several people that does not need DBFCDX like Danilo, or some of my applications, and these will start with the X# runtime when it becomes available. And I am very curious if the current ADS RDD will compile with the X# runtime instead of the Vulcan runtime - this will be one of the first things I will try.

Wolfgang

[rjpajaron]

Hi Wolfgang,

re: ADS RDD. The way understand it, it need X# RDD, hence it is dependent to X# RDD. Just a thought, but let me know about your experiment.

[wriedmann]

Hi Rene,

the original ADS RDD for Vulcan.NET is written in C#, but has dependencies to the Vulcan runtime DLLs.

It is very easy to decompile it and recompile it with a new version of runtime DLLs. This was the only possibility to make them run with Vulcan.NET v4.

Therefore it should be no problem to try this with X#.

For sure, you break the SAP license decompiling the RDD, but I don't think SAP will do anything because they don't sell the RDD, but the server, and are interested in selling more servers.
But since this is not a legal behaviour, the X# team cannot do this for you. But as Robert stated several times, the ADS RDD will be the first RDD they will do for themselves.

Of course I will let know you if I'm able to make the ADS RDD run with the X# runtime.

Wolfgang

[softdevo@tiscali.it]

I did not understand, I missed something? But the replacement DLLs for VulcanRt.Dll and VulcanRtFuncs.dll are not available yet, are they?

Danilo